Showing posts with label waning immunity. Show all posts
Showing posts with label waning immunity. Show all posts

Thursday, February 12, 2015

THE M-M-R VACCINE WEARS OFF / DOES NOT WORK????

I was just looking the frequently ask questions from the NHS about the MMR (MUMPS, MEASLES, RUBELLA) VACCINE and I REALLY have to ask HOW F#CKING STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE???? The logic being used is absolutely ABSURD!!!! BELOW ARE A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF THE STUPIDITY!!!!

How long does protection from MMR last?

It seems to be very long lasting. Virtually everyone (more than 99%) will be protected against measles and rubella for more than 20 years after two doses of MMR.

Protection against mumps after two doses of MMR is a little lower (90-95%) and appears to gradually decline. Mumps in vaccinated people is, however, much less likely to lead to complications such as meningitis or orchitis (painful swelling of the testes) and vaccinated people are less likely to require admission to hospital.

WTF??? MUMPS IS A SELF LIMITED DISEASE AND IS MILDER THE YOUNGER YOU ARE! THE SAME GOES FOR MEASLES! Natural measles gives you life long protection BUT if you notice they claim the MMR protects for over 20 years. I call bullshit on this and think many of the recent outbreaks are from the vaccine wearing off. Yet another reason to seek out the childhood diseases and have them over and done with! Natural immunity is the ONLY immunity!
Take a look at their contradictions on the NHS website and notice that the UK has ONLY the MMR since 1988!!!! Prior to this MUMPS was NOT seen as a big deal, funny how that changes when you can push a vaccine...  ADDING TO THE INSULT IS THE CONTINUED DENIAL OF VACCINE INJURY, I MEAN REALLY WTF... :-( :-( :-(
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/mmr-questions-answers.aspx#long

HAMPSTER DEAD

Wednesday, January 28, 2015

MEASLES IN THE HIGHLY POISONED!!!!!!!!

There are many LIARS and MISINFORMED people claiming that MEASLES only happens in the "NON VACCINATED"....

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/2013-measles-outbreak-failing-vaccine-not-failure-vaccinate1

Are the recently reported measles outbreaks in the U.S. being caused by the failure to vaccinate, or the failure of the vaccine? Shockingly, clinically confirmed reports of measles vaccine failure in fully vaccinated populations stretch back a quarter of a century from around the world.
In a recent CNN Health opinion piece too easily confused with reporting titled, US measles cases in 2013 may be the worst in 17 years, Elizabeth Cohen, CNN's Senior Medical Correspondent, blames the 159 cases of measles the CDC reported occurring from Jan. 1 through Aug. 24th on "visitors from countries where measles is common" and "vaccine objectors within the United States."
What makes her conspicuously non-referenced statistics so disturbing is that she is ignoring a substantial body of literature, including peer-reviewed and published epidemiological and clinical studies, indicating that the recent measles outbreaks are just as likely caused by the failure of the vaccine as by presumably irrational and/or irresponsible parents exercising their legal right and responsibility to choose whether or not to vaccine their children.
Let's fill in the data that so obviously got flushed down the memory hole by this irresponsible piece of CNN 'reporting.'
First, we should acknowledge one underreported fact of immunology: vaccine-induced antibody elevations do not guarantee real world protection against the pathogen the vaccine is intended to immunize us against, which is the only true measure of their value.
This is not a new observation. It goes back decades, with a 1990 study published in the Journal of Infectious Diseases finding that even though 95% of a population of urban African children had measles antibodies after vaccination, vaccine efficacy was not more than 68%.[1]
Or, take a look at 2008 study that found that even when the measles vaccine successfully generates an elevation of measles specific antibodies 20.7% (6 out of 29) have non-protective titers.[2] Or, one from 1988 that found that within a highly vaccinated community experiencing an outbreak of measles, antibody responses to measles could be found in 100% of the unvaccinated versus only 89.2% of the vaccinated. They conclude: "[A] history of prior measles vaccination is not always associated with immunity nor with the presence of specific antibodies.[3]
Again, the point remains the same: vaccine-induced synthetic immunity does not guarantee real world protection, and certainly not with anything near 100% effectiveness, despite what the CDC, vaccine manufacturers or mainstream news reports imply by blaming the non-vaccinated for vaccine-failure associated outbreaks.
Read our report on the groundbreaking 2011 study published in the journal Immunity that challenges the primary antibody-based justification for vaccination if you need a more in-depth explanation of this critical point.
Second, there is plenty of research available today demonstrating that the adverse health effects associated with the measles vaccine, and particularly the trivalent mumps, measles, rubella combination vaccine,[4] may far outweigh their purported therapeutic effects, that even if a vaccine is successful at preventing and/or delaying infection from measles this does not mean that this will improve the overall health of those vaccinated. To the contrary, it has been known for several decades that the administration of measles vaccine in underdeveloped countries may actually be resulting in higher infant mortality rates.[5] [6] This has, in fact, been a persistent criticism levied against UNICEF's vaccine-heavy strategy in certain regions of Africa, which appear to have increased mortality rates.[7] UNICEF is not solely to blame, as there are quite a few 'charitable health organizations' patting each other on the back for 'saving lives' by reducing 'vaccine-preventable diseases,' at the very moment that mortality from vaccine-associated adverse effects are increasing. This is exactly what's so deranged about the Global Polio Eradication campaign, whose claim to have virtually eradicated wild-type polio in India obscures the fact that the live vaccine-specific strain of polio, believed to be twice as lethal as the natural form, may now be causing close to 48,000 cases of polio vaccine associated injury a year.

Measles Vaccine Failures Documented for A Quarter of A Century, Around the World

Now to the heart of the problem with CNN's article.  Throughout the real (not imaginary) history of the measles vaccine, failure after failure has been recorded, starting with:
  • 1985, Texas, USA: According to an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1987, "An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced." They concluded: "We conclude that outbreaks of measles can occur in secondary schools, even when more than 99 percent of the students have been vaccinated and more than 95 percent are immune."[8]
  • 1985, Montana, USA: According to an article published in the American Journal of Epidemiology titled, "A persistent outbreak of measles despite appropriate prevention and control measures," an outbreak of 137 cases of measles occurred in Montana. School records indicated that 98.7% of students were appropriately vaccinated, leading the researchers to conclude: "This outbreak suggests that measles transmission may persist in some settings despite appropriate implementation of the current measles elimination strategy."[9]
  • 1988, Colorado, USA: According to an article published in the American Journal of Public Health in 1991, "early 1988 an outbreak of 84 measles cases occurred at a college in Colorado in which over 98 percent of students had documentation of adequate measles immunity ... due to an immunization requirement in effect since 1986. They concluded: "...measles outbreaks can occur among highly vaccinated college populations."[10]
  • 1989, Quebec, Canada: According to an article published in the Canadian Journal of Public Health in 1991, a 1989 measles outbreak was "largely attributed to an incomplete vaccination coverage," but following an extensive review the researchers concluded "Incomplete vaccination coverage is not a valid explanation for the Quebec City measles outbreak.[11]
  • 1991-1992, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: According to an article published in the journal Revista da Sociedade Brasileira de Medicina Tropical, in a measles outbreak from March 1991 to April 1992 in Rio de Janeiro, 76.4% of those suspected to be infected had received measles vaccine before their first birthday. [12]
  • 1992, Cape Town, South Africa: According to an article published in the South African Medical Journal in 1994, "[In] August 1992 an outbreak occurred, with cases reported at many schools in children presumably immunised." Immunization coverage for measles was found to be 91%, and vaccine efficacy found to be only 79%, leading them to conclude that primary and secondary vaccine failure was a possible explanation for the outbreak.[13]These six outbreaks are by no means exhaustive of the biomedical literature, but illustrate just how mislead the general public is about the effectiveness of measles vaccines, and the CDC's immunization agenda in general.  No amount of ignoring history will erase the fact that vaccination does not equal immunization. The superstitious and ironically non-evidence-based faith in the infallibility of vaccines speaks volumes to why the growing movement to educate the public about the true nature of vaccines is increasingly labeled "anti-vaccine," when in fact it is pro-vaccine awareness. UNICEF and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation can continue to label those who bring the peer-reviewed 'evidence' to the public's attention as 'liars' or 'child killers, as Bill Gates said in a CNN interview with Dr. Sanjay Gupta. But all this does is increase the public's suspicion of the real agenda behind their ostensibly charitable plea to save the poor and the needy from the hell of disease, instead of focusing on improving their most basic living conditions, nutrition, sanitation, etc., and making inroads to reduce the geopolitical violence that is ruining the lives of hundreds of millions. Measles is a real disease with real adverse health effects, some of which can be life threatening. But our immune status, as with all infectious diseases, determines susceptibility and whether or not a disease will be mild or lethal. You can't vaccinate away conditions that lead to compromised immunity, nor can you immunize folks against the desire to pursue the truth about vaccines. Learn more on our research vaccine database: Health Guide: Vaccine Research

    [1] P Aaby, K Knudsen, T G Jensen, J Thårup, A Poulsen, M Sodemann, M C da Silva, H Whittle. Measles incidence, vaccine efficacy, and mortality in two urban African areas with high vaccination coverage. J Infect Dis. 1990 Nov ;162(5):1043-8. PMID: 2230232
    [2] Inácio M Mandomando, Denise Naniche, Marcela F Pasetti, Xavier Vallès, Lilian Cuberos, Ariel Nhacolo, Karen L Kotloff, Helder Martins, Myron M Levine, Pedro Alonso. Measles-specific neutralizing antibodies in rural Mozambique: seroprevalence and presence in breast milk. Am J Trop Med Hyg. 2008 Nov;79(5):787-92. PMID: 18981523
    [3] L Sekla, W Stackiw, G Eibisch, I Johnson. An evaluation of measles serodiagnosis during an outbreak in a vaccinated community. Clin Invest Med. 1988 Aug ;11(4):304-9. PMID: 3168353
    [4] GreenMedInfo.com > Research > Problematic Actions > Vaccination: Measles-Mumps-Rubella: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/anti-therapeutic-action/vaccination-mumps-measles-rubella-mmr
    [5] A J Hall, F T Cutts. Lessons from measles vaccination in developing countries. BMJ. 1993 Nov 20;307(6915):1294-5. PMID: 8257878
    [6] Peter Aaby, Henrik Jensen, Francois Simondon, Hilton Whittle. High-titer measles vaccination before 9 months of age and increased female mortality: do we have an explanation? Semin Pediatr Infect Dis. 2003 Jul;14(3):220-32. PMID: 12913835
    [7] BBC New, Unicef child-death campaign in Africa 'failed,' Jan. 2010
    [8] T L Gustafson, A W Lievens, P A Brunell, R G Moellenberg, C M Buttery, L M Sehulster. Measles outbreak in a fully immunized secondary-school population. N Engl J Med. 1987 Mar 26 ;316(13):771-4. PMID: 3821823
    [9] R M Davis, E D Whitman, W A Orenstein, S R Preblud, L E Markowitz, A R Hinman. A persistent outbreak of measles despite appropriate prevention and control measures. Am J Epidemiol. 1987 Sep ;126(3):438-49. PMID: 3618578
    [10] B S Hersh, L E Markowitz, R E Hoffman, D R Hoff, M J Doran, J C Fleishman, S R Preblud, W A Orenstein. A measles outbreak at a college with a prematriculation immunization requirement. Am J Public Health. 1991 Mar ;81(3):360-4. PMID: 1994745
    [11] N Boulianne, G De Serres, B Duval, J R Joly, F Meyer, P Déry, M Alary, D Le Hénaff, N Thériault.[Major measles epidemic in the region of Quebec despite a 99% vaccine coverage]. Can J Public Health. 1991 May-Jun;82(3):189-90. PMID: 1884314
    [12] S A de Oliveira, W N Soares, M O Dalston, M T de Almeida, A J Costa. Clinical and epidemiological findings during a measles outbreak occurring in a population with a high vaccination coverage. Rev Soc Bras Med Trop. 1995 Oct-Dec;28(4):339-43. PMID: 8668833
    [13] N Coetzee, G D Hussey, G Visser, P Barron, A Keen. The 1992 measles epidemic in Cape Town--a changing epidemiological pattern. S Afr Med J. 1994 Mar ;84(3):145-9. PMID: 7740350


Saturday, October 8, 2011

THE MUMPS VACCINE EPIC FAIL!

WOW!!!!!!!! Voodoo science at its worst! All of the people who are getting the mumps in this outbreak have had 2 doses of the MMR. The funny thing is they are now just making it up as they go along and are claiming a person needs 3 doses if they live or work on a college campus. I heard the same crap a few years ago when there was an outbreak in NYC, a Dr was pushing a 3rd dose on teens and said he would like to see it become a 4 dose series or perhaps even more. 

If anyone has any information on this outbreak please pass it my direction.


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http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_19057560?source=rss

BERKELEY -- Hundreds of UC Berkeley students and employees lined up outside the campus health center Thursday for free vaccinations after a mumps outbreak infected up to 20 students.
A spokeswoman for the health center said the university and state public-health officials expected to vaccinate more than 1,000 people by the time the clinic closed at 6 p.m. The university will hold another free clinic from noon to 6 p.m. Oct. 14.
The state Department of Public Health was monitoring the rare outbreak this week. A department spokesman said he had no update on the number of students infected. Seven cases had been confirmed and 13 other students were being tested.
Although health officials initially wondered whether the outbreak started with students who had not been vaccinated, a spokeswoman for the city of Berkeley said all the patients had received the two recommended doses before becoming ill. Three vaccinations are recommended for people living and working on college campuses, a city health official said.

Wednesday, May 7, 2008

Changing patterns in vaccine era pose questions about durability of immunity

I will take my risk with natural exposure to the childhood diseases over vaccination any day.


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http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNqVbEk87YKN2ve20_ppTYGyBidA

Changing patterns in vaccine era pose questions about durability of immunity

TORONTO — We call them the diseases of childhood - measles, mumps, rubella and chickenpox, to name a few.

But now that these diseases seldom circulate in countries that immunize against them and immune protection is rarely being naturally refreshed or "boosted" by sporadic exposure, is there a risk that in the future, older adults may find themselves unexpectedly vulnerable to these disease pests from their past?

As we head into a world where an ever growing - and aging - proportion of the population only has vaccine-acquired protection, what is really known about how long immunity is likely to endure? For that matter, can science be sure that immunity generated by infection - thought for many diseases to be lifelong - will actually hold true in the vaccine age?

"I don't think we know much at all," acknowledges Dr. Samuel Katz, co-inventor of the measles vaccine and a pediatric infectious disease expert at Duke University in Durham, N.C.

Figuring out answers about the durability of immunity - naturally and vaccine-acquired - in a time without natural boosting won't be easy.

But the last generation to have routinely suffered through most of these diseases is crossing through mid-life and the first generation to have avoided them is hovering around 40.

As both groups head toward the so-called golden years when possible waning immunity may be exacerbated by the age-related decline of the immune system, gauging the levels of society's disease defences could become key to keeping these nasty invaders out of our communities, experts say.

Dr. Michael Osterholm says scientists should be doing long-term immunity studies - following groups of people for decades - in the way cancer researchers track groups of people to try to discern what causes cancer.

"That would help us understand at what point does the level of protection drop for a population. Not any one individual. But a population norm where you would now recommend that a booster shot should occur as a standard of medical practice," suggests Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

Before vaccination became commonplace, adults often came in contact with youngsters suffering from mumps, measles and the other childhood diseases. That remained the case in the early days of vaccine administration when these diseases still commonly circulated.

If people had protection - natural or vaccine-acquired - those exposures were actually helpful. They acted as a sort of natural booster shot, reminding the immune system to be on guard for this threat.

Some experts now suggest these unrecorded natural boosts may have led medicine to overestimate the durability of immunity generated by childhood vaccinations and maybe even natural infection, though it is thought to be more enduring than vaccine-acquired infection.

These days, few people are getting natural boosting to these diseases.

"What's happening if we don't have these exposures? I don't know," Katz admits.

These questions about the durability of immunity are on the minds of public health authorities in countries where childhood vaccines have been in longest use, says Dr. Jane Seward, an expert in vaccine-preventable diseases with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta.

"It's certainly a reasonable hypothesis that immunity might wane more quickly in the absence of external boosting. Whether that's the case or not, we don't know. But it's a reasonable thing to postulate," she says.

Seward's group at the CDC is following people who were vaccinated with the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine about 15 years ago to track how well their protection is holding up. They hope to mount a similar effort to study chickenpox vaccine, which was only put into broad use in the U.S. and Canada in the mid-to late-1990s.

Others, though, acknowledge the long-term studies needed to assess immunity levels generated by the range of childhood vaccines haven't been undertaken in a systematic manner.

"We have not methodically - we being the field of public health officials, scientists - we have not methodically measured the level of immune responses to standard childhood diseases vaccines that people have received one, two, three, four, five decades earlier," says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

"It has been done mostly in a reactive mode," he says, pointing as an example to work done to understand a large outbreak of mumps in Iowa in 2006.

The full picture of the durability of immunity in the vaccine era will probably take decades to come into sharp focus. And the answers will likely vary from disease to disease, Fauci and others say.

For instance, U.S. studies done to test whether smallpox vaccinations given decades ago offered any current protection showed that those who had been vaccinated probably still have protective immunity. "We were stunned," Fauci says.

But a soon-to-be published study by some of Seward's CDC colleagues - done as part of the Iowa mumps investigation - shows antibody levels to the mumps virus had declined markedly in people who had received the recommended two doses of vaccine 15 years or more earlier. That suggests the vaccine's protection is less enduring than would have been hoped.

The fact that the protection may not be lifelong should not be characterized as a failure of the vaccines, public health experts say. The years of protection they have already conferred have dramatically slashed rates of once common diseases.

Consider measles: Where 300,000 to 400,000 Canadian children used to contract the disease every year, now an outbreak of fewer than a handful of cases - such as a recent cluster in Toronto - makes the news.

Given that measles has a complication rate of 20 per cent and that the World Health Organization estimates measles killed 242,000 children around the globe in 2006, proponents term vaccines as a modern day medical miracle.

Experts also warn that the fact that immunity may not be lifelong should not be used to argue for natural infection over immunization.

"Never forget natural infection comes at a great cost, both potentially to the individual and definitely to society," Osterholm insists. "Each infection is a crapshoot as to whether it's going to be mild, moderate, severe or fatal. And those are odds none of us should have to take."

The end result of the investigation into the durability of immunity in the vaccine age could be a recognition that adults need booster shots to prevent outbreaks of what we now consider childhood diseases. Osterholm, for one, thinks that's likely.

Fauci isn't sure, suggesting the lack of natural boosting highlights the fact that exposures to the viruses and bacteria that cause these diseases are rare in North America.

"There is a potential risk. I mean you'd have to say that. I'm not so sure how great a risk it's going to be."

Should emerging data show adults will need booster shots for childhood diseases, vaccine delivery programs will have to be reorganized to look at issues of who pays and how best to ensure adults actually get the shots, says Dr. Bonnie Henry, chair of the Canadian Coalition for Immunization Awareness and Promotion.

"Adult immunization is woefully neglected," notes Henry, an infectious diseases expert with the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control.

"And I don't know what the answer's going to be in that but it does pose a whole bunch of challenges because we don't have the access to people (adults) in the same way that we do when you're in school."